NORTHEAST BUGGY ASSOCIATION

GG, we've looked at just about anything there is...
The hard part is getting consistant support from the many "fronts" that are involved.

States have been the hardest for us and some of this comes from land owners.
Some of it comes from citizen action groups that, in my opinion, don't have a clue.

It takes a lot of time, effort and money to put this stuff together and the problem that we have as a group is that all of this is fluid to the point where it's hard to keep up with it.

As a group what we tend to do is find the path of least resistance.
Example: I don't know if I want to spend xxx number of hours working on a certification course when I still have to worry about where and how to get my buggy registered and where/how to get insurance. Some people can get insurance very easily. Others it's the registration that easy, insurance is expensive or hard to get. And then there's some of us that, until recently, had no practical way of registering our buggies in our home states.

It's a huge deck of cards and if you can figure out a way to knock one them down, the others seem to tumble, over time. It's finding the easy one that's tough.

As far as this one goes, it doesn't look like they are real family centered with the age restrictions and all.

i'm in! i wish i could find my old terroist driving course certificates, that was a blast but alot of work. sometimes i had to chauffer managing directors around and had to take the course back in the early eighty's. i have taught many a little girl to drive the buggies after britt (my daughter) took'm around a while. now she teaches them (unless they are really ....um ... bad) then i give'm a whirl. they all got it some just took longer then others.
JT

I've been to state parks that won't even allow anyone under 12 to operate a bicycle or any human propelled or motorized vehicle within their boundaries. I'll do some thinking on this and look over what info exists on various buggy sites and other related rules and regs. With the right marketing you can sell ice cubes to Yeti so there is probably a decent solution out there. I don't think there are many instant resolutions or you would have probably found them but I may be able to add some ideas that might help.
... Yes it does seem futile to go through several hoops when the outcome is probably going to be negative. It should start with your most involved riders and any volunteers as the start and grow the program from a seed while impressing the nay sayers with persistence and standardization. There will always be bad apples in every bushel but that shouldn't be allowed to spoil the whole basket. What you are doing right now are huge steps in the right direction. With more involvement in buggies by manufacturers, dealers and parts distributors comes more interest in saving their businesses. There is opportunity to do everything from sponsored test & tunes to contingency competitions. I bet in a year NEBA could be doing a tech spot on SPEED or another channel. You already have those seeds started. Good written documentation, filming and supporting photography during tech vids can easily be turned into great television. I know it sounds nearly impossible but I bet when this club was started it didn't have the notice it does now.
... With the rules I have seen and regulations for buggies that these groups like NEBA have already in operation coupled by the continued participation of respectful members you are already moving in a positive direction with momentum.
... What you are accomplishing is no different than the seedlings of SCCA, NASCAR or NHRA. They still meet with considerable opposition but managed to become huge organizations recognized across the world. I'll chat with anyone interested in such ideas anytime. I believe that MBRA, NEBA and the others can overcome many of the barriers that still remain...

GG,
i feel the same way as you. the problem is there aren't enough people in one area willing to put in the time that it takes to get this accomplished. 90% of buggiers, atvers, ohvers will sit and continuosly complain that there is no where to ride. when the opportunity arrises, they don't make the effort to do anything about it. i posted on here, craigslist, gardenweb, & a few other sites to get people to come to meetings. townhall meetings where the first park of three were to be built opening a gateway for n.j. recreational off highway use. and 300 came to the 1st meeting, then the size decreased by half as each meeting went on. i can't tell ya how pissed i was. granted i was only able to attend a few because of my work schedule. i don't know, there are alot of older enviornmentalists that have alot more free time to be involved in thier fight i guess or they just aren't as lazy.
Go Figure,
JT

GG, i like the way u think. are you going to vinny's on the 17th/18th?
JT

Thats outstanding. if my daughter comes i'm gonna have to keep a good eye on them, she's thirteen also.
JT

darn thats rough, the most important factor. girls riding motorcross gotta love it. i may not be able to come. i believe sunday is the breast cancer walk and i raised alot of money for sponsorship. i'll have to see if i can get a body double.
JT